Tinman wrote:I had the "effectiveness on film" debate in my head before posting; but then what about astral experiences - does visualizing and imagining make those any less "real" or the experiences any less "meaningful". I don't have the answer. So I ask: not being able to travel to NY myself. Thanks for considering down the line though.
A version of the script will be in print in a few weeks. Maybe we can at least get someone in NY to take some photos for posting here? (Attention NYC gang!)
BTW - and this touches on the astral question somewhat - I had a similar experience the first time I saw live pro tennis. I've never been a tennis fan but, in the late '80s, someone gave me tickets to the Virginia Slims finals. We had first or second row seats and I was amazed! We were watching cream of the crop - Steffi Graf playing (I think it was) Gabriela Sabatini. What I found as that I knew all their moves a couple of seconds before they made them - the entire match (almost every minute of it) was
deja vu. My companion had the same experience. We eventually realized that, with the enormous concentration each player was exercising, the keen power of visualization of their own moves, we were seeing their mental pictures as they were seeing them. It was really extraordinary!
Well, I went out of there with an enthusiasm for watching tennis I never thought I'd have, and took the first opportunity to watch a televised match that had the same athletes. What an enormous disappointment! There was nothing - it was, well, flat - it was just as exciting as watching two robots play ping-pong.
And the reason should have been obvious: What we experienced from the players in person, the telepathic rapport, wasn't possible across television. You had to be there in person to get it. I immediately stopped watching tennis again!
Same with magick.
Love is the law, love under will.
Yours in L.V.X.,
Jim Eshelman
(Yod Vav Daleth = Love AND Will)